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		By: Aaron Griffiths		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2021 03:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.elearningworld.org/are-online-the-worst-or-changing-scotts-mind/#comment-1310&quot;&gt;Aaron Griffiths&lt;/a&gt;.

Stuart I hear what you are saying re the technical challenges and the time challenges but I would suggest that similar challenges occur in any &#039;virtual environment&#039;. One must always have the hardware to manage the required applications and take the time to form some mastery of them so that the experience might be effective and not too burdensome.

In particular, I would say that the hardware challenge has reduced significantly since the early days of Second Life as, technically, the specs now required have not increased dramatically when compared to the expotential increase in the capabilities of even standard hardware.

In terms of the time taken to learn the environment, to enjoy a conference only requires learning a minor subset of the full capabilities, all of which are comprehensively covered in YouTube videos, and the SL entry tutorials that every new user is subjected to, i.e. how to move, how to teleport and minor use of Inventory. Once learnt... well it&#039;s the old bicycle adage.

What I would say though, unequivocally, is that the benefits brought about by one&#039;s sense of presence, of actually being there together with all the other attendees, far outweighs the effort required to attend.

I have written some on this in an article: Being there: A presence of self - https://fxualeducation.wordpress.com/2014/07/22/being-there/]]></description>
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<p>Stuart I hear what you are saying re the technical challenges and the time challenges but I would suggest that similar challenges occur in any &#8216;virtual environment&#8217;. One must always have the hardware to manage the required applications and take the time to form some mastery of them so that the experience might be effective and not too burdensome.</p>
<p>In particular, I would say that the hardware challenge has reduced significantly since the early days of Second Life as, technically, the specs now required have not increased dramatically when compared to the expotential increase in the capabilities of even standard hardware.</p>
<p>In terms of the time taken to learn the environment, to enjoy a conference only requires learning a minor subset of the full capabilities, all of which are comprehensively covered in YouTube videos, and the SL entry tutorials that every new user is subjected to, i.e. how to move, how to teleport and minor use of Inventory. Once learnt&#8230; well it&#8217;s the old bicycle adage.</p>
<p>What I would say though, unequivocally, is that the benefits brought about by one&#8217;s sense of presence, of actually being there together with all the other attendees, far outweighs the effort required to attend.</p>
<p>I have written some on this in an article: Being there: A presence of self &#8211; <a href="https://fxualeducation.wordpress.com/2014/07/22/being-there/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://fxualeducation.wordpress.com/2014/07/22/being-there/</a></p>
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		By: Stuart R Mealor		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2021 22:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.elearningworld.org/are-online-the-worst-or-changing-scotts-mind/#comment-1310&quot;&gt;Aaron Griffiths&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Aaron !
I haven&#039;t used Second Life for several years, but it was interesting, I also had a play with IMVU.
I think there are perhaps two challenges to using Second Life for a &#039;standard&#039; conference.
1. The technical challenges - the hardware required to have a good SL experience.
2. The time challenge - it takes a certain investment in time to get the best out of a SL presence and event.
However, I do think there are things we can learn from these gold standard virtual environments, that can then be incorporated into more traditional environments.
Just as a basic starting point, if using Moodle for a virtual conference for example...
a) Everyone has a blag, which helps others understand their perspectives and opinions (or a feed from their external blog)
b) Everyone has a profile, with multiple photos
c) Everyone has interests and tags
d) Everyone joins groups - perhaps based on tags and interests
e) Everyone votes in Choice activities - so there is a shared understanding of the group
All these aspects, and many more, can be part of the pre-conference setup, and allow people to understand and connect better.
Hmmmmm, I might start thinking about the New Zealand conference soon, or the idea of an ElearningWorld online conference, and how some of these ideas could be beneficial :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.elearningworld.org/are-online-the-worst-or-changing-scotts-mind/#comment-1310">Aaron Griffiths</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Aaron !<br />
I haven&#8217;t used Second Life for several years, but it was interesting, I also had a play with IMVU.<br />
I think there are perhaps two challenges to using Second Life for a &#8216;standard&#8217; conference.<br />
1. The technical challenges &#8211; the hardware required to have a good SL experience.<br />
2. The time challenge &#8211; it takes a certain investment in time to get the best out of a SL presence and event.<br />
However, I do think there are things we can learn from these gold standard virtual environments, that can then be incorporated into more traditional environments.<br />
Just as a basic starting point, if using Moodle for a virtual conference for example&#8230;<br />
a) Everyone has a blag, which helps others understand their perspectives and opinions (or a feed from their external blog)<br />
b) Everyone has a profile, with multiple photos<br />
c) Everyone has interests and tags<br />
d) Everyone joins groups &#8211; perhaps based on tags and interests<br />
e) Everyone votes in Choice activities &#8211; so there is a shared understanding of the group<br />
All these aspects, and many more, can be part of the pre-conference setup, and allow people to understand and connect better.<br />
Hmmmmm, I might start thinking about the New Zealand conference soon, or the idea of an ElearningWorld online conference, and how some of these ideas could be beneficial 🙂</p>
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		By: John Allan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Allan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2021 14:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aaron, Thanks for these links.  I was involved with Second Life through the TESOL organization in the past.  As the pandemic moves on, these options are more relevant.  Any resource that allows us to meet, learn, share and socialize are welcomed.   I am looking forward to the conference in March.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, Thanks for these links.  I was involved with Second Life through the TESOL organization in the past.  As the pandemic moves on, these options are more relevant.  Any resource that allows us to meet, learn, share and socialize are welcomed.   I am looking forward to the conference in March.</p>
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		By: John Allan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great ideas Stuart.   I am once again getting ready to run online conference sessions in 2021.  The organizers have a set structure that will confine participation in the events.  I am going to suggest an open format for a conference that I am helping to plan. The facilitators can choose their technology and delivery methodology. Thanks for the inspiration.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great ideas Stuart.   I am once again getting ready to run online conference sessions in 2021.  The organizers have a set structure that will confine participation in the events.  I am going to suggest an open format for a conference that I am helping to plan. The facilitators can choose their technology and delivery methodology. Thanks for the inspiration.</p>
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		By: Aaron Griffiths		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2021 01:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Every year since 2008 the Virtual Worlds Best Practices in Education Conference has been held in the virtual world Second Life. If you really want to experience the level of presence that can be brought to an online conference and the sense of all being there in a same space together that can be achieved I&#039;d suggest giving it a go. I&#039;d be happy to facilitate learning about the environment if anyone wishes to head there in March.

The conference site is here https://www.vwbpe.org/

I have written a number of articles here https://fxualeducation.wordpress.com/ which may give you some insight into the possibilities of virtual world environments in education.

Regards
Aaron]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every year since 2008 the Virtual Worlds Best Practices in Education Conference has been held in the virtual world Second Life. If you really want to experience the level of presence that can be brought to an online conference and the sense of all being there in a same space together that can be achieved I&#8217;d suggest giving it a go. I&#8217;d be happy to facilitate learning about the environment if anyone wishes to head there in March.</p>
<p>The conference site is here <a href="https://www.vwbpe.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.vwbpe.org/</a></p>
<p>I have written a number of articles here <a href="https://fxualeducation.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://fxualeducation.wordpress.com/</a> which may give you some insight into the possibilities of virtual world environments in education.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Aaron</p>
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		By: Stuart R Mealor		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2021 20:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a great post John.
Such a lot of focussed reflection around Scott&#039;s assertion, and I think you reached a similar conclusion.
I too miss the human face-to-face contact of traditional conference events.
This makes me &quot;think forward&quot; about what we could do, in the future, to make virtual conferences more interactive and engaging?
Ultimately, I think the &#039;presentation&#039; mode of transfer is the issue.
It is generally one way, a push technology.
So I think we need to consider how to enable more &#039;round table&#039; modes.
As an example, where maybe a session is limited to 10 people, each has specific point to address, and then would ask a question of the next person. In this way the speaker role flows from one person to another.
I also think that having to prepare something before a session, and complete something after a session helps.
Maybe as simple as constructing a group Wiki.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great post John.<br />
Such a lot of focussed reflection around Scott&#8217;s assertion, and I think you reached a similar conclusion.<br />
I too miss the human face-to-face contact of traditional conference events.<br />
This makes me &#8220;think forward&#8221; about what we could do, in the future, to make virtual conferences more interactive and engaging?<br />
Ultimately, I think the &#8216;presentation&#8217; mode of transfer is the issue.<br />
It is generally one way, a push technology.<br />
So I think we need to consider how to enable more &#8217;round table&#8217; modes.<br />
As an example, where maybe a session is limited to 10 people, each has specific point to address, and then would ask a question of the next person. In this way the speaker role flows from one person to another.<br />
I also think that having to prepare something before a session, and complete something after a session helps.<br />
Maybe as simple as constructing a group Wiki.</p>
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